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AlbertinoDias said: Don't worry, we don't mind.riku said: vote Oyasumi_Rosie Based on answers, here is who i believe is scum s I am on the phone cannot do hikus to talk I can't follow Rosie's thinking. Like she's basically already concluded Togs is scum and wants to do preflip associations after already telling togs about it. I just really don't see how that can work. It also kinda implies a 'sit back and watch' approach to the game which I can't say I like either. As for Togs, He's a player I'd rather sort out when he has some more content to work with. First impression is that his posts felt a bit... Fake? Forced? Not a strong impression tho, it just kinda struck me the wrong way. Tho tbf we can just wait 'till he gets modkilled. |
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| Votecount 1.4 Godfathu (2) - @Scarlet_Rage, @AbuHumaid AlbertinoDias (2) - @Wen294, @Togs Scarlet_Rage (2) - @Sleipnirr, @Kit Rosie (1) - @Riku Riku (1) - @Phraze Karote (1) - @Yurkin Yurkin (1) - @Karote Purity (1) - @Zymf Kit (1) - @RE No Lynch (1) - @AlbertinoDias Not voting: @CorruptedPurity, @Oyasumi_Rosie, @Godfathu With 16 players, it takes 9 to lynch. The Lynch deadline is 9/15 at 1416 MST. DM or Ping me if there are any mistakes |
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Kit said: Scarlet_Rage said: @Kit, what town slip are you allegedly seeing? I have been waiting for an articulate reason why Godfather is town and I have yet to get one? Why are you using the burden of proficiency fallacy to conclude Toog or RE is scum? Just because a player is good at scum does not make them scum. What scum motivation is there for their play? I'd stipulate (for sake of argument) if Toog/RE is scum, they want me pursuing this path because I would be wrong. Yet, RE disagrees with me on Sleep being scum (fundamental foundation of my theory). Toog also hasn't been encouraging me down this path. I do agree with not Garciaing points (as Toog should not have done). Yet, it's pretty common to highlight questions that are flat out bad. The argument against Toog is intent on keeping him in the past instead of what's right here. I hate d1 too but dang. -you yourself used burden of proficiency to say that articulate players are scum.. wut -why do you keep saying toog instead of togs -i said that i can't tell WHICH one is scum because they're both good at being scum, and since i believe you are aligned with ONE of them, it makes more sense to vote you. now you are defending both of them so you look even more aligned. :) -why does your scum buddy have to publicly agree with you? No. Burden of proficiency is expecting a player's skill level to be relevant in their alignment. Here you said Tog or RE is good at scummy; therefore scummy. I butcher players' names all the time. Toogelo is a common mafiascum player and he goes by Toog. Tog reminds me of him I guess. I am pretty sure Godfather and Sleip have their names butchered too. Yes, this is textbook burden of proficiency. You can sort them and me but you're refusing to bc they are good at scum. It prevents you from seeing they are both likely town. Second, independent of them, what is your read on me? This reeks of you not assessing but hiding behind things. If you want to vote based on skill level, fine. I have probably played more games than this group combined. If you want to win, work with me. Oh and Garciaing is answering a question directed at someone else. |
Kit said: Preflip associations intensifies.At first glance, rage togs & re feel aligned -all vote god, (RE rvs, Scar to make train, Togs to make train) -togs defends scar and re defends togs and his defense of scar But an entire scum team won't be this obvious. From this I conclude Togs/RE are unaligned. But one of them is aligned with Scar, and is pocketing the other. Both are good players and are scary as scum (good at looking townie). But the defense of scar and the vote association let me conclude scar is mafia with one of them. So for now.. Vote: Scarlet Rage You think Togs or RE to be the kind of scum to stick their neck out from the very beginning of the game for a scumbuddy? Wouldn't scum be more self-conscious about defending a scum buddy? Kit said: Imo town is more likely to be hardheaded in their reads/opinions. Scum KNOWS their scumread is incorrect and are therefore more likely to take a step back and rethink.RE vs God. God owns up to his mistake and revokes vote. This sounds more town than scum. "Well shit, you’re right. You were actually the first to vote :))" (then he unvotes). Scum just typically wouldn't do this although I can't seem to articulate why. If anyone wants to dispute this go ahead. The problem i have with fathu revoking his vote is that his initial reasoning of the vote should've been his reply to sleip, he said so himself. Yet when both me and RE asked him to clarify that exact post he ignored it. When i called him out for ignoring it, he ignored that too. Because of that it came across more as abondoning a failed vote than abandoning a failed line of thought to me. |
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Kit said: Scarlet_Rage said: there are many town players that don't solve. what has he done to purposely further the scum agenda? While it is correct to look at mindset, look at the motivation. Is he solving? No. Everything is back to bull. That's a scum mindset. action isn't everything and like i said earlier i tend to tone read. Nope. Town players solve the game. It may be their own weird way, townblocks, random gotcha tests, vca, tone reads, but town solve. Scum protect partners, create narratives, and stall scumhunting. Generally, scum are more passive barring a threat to them. Passive players do not draw attention. Scum players, all things being equal, like a stalled game. So a player with no stances = much more likely to be scum. |
wen294 said: Kit said: Preflip associations intensifies.At first glance, rage togs & re feel aligned -all vote god, (RE rvs, Scar to make train, Togs to make train) -togs defends scar and re defends togs and his defense of scar But an entire scum team won't be this obvious. From this I conclude Togs/RE are unaligned. But one of them is aligned with Scar, and is pocketing the other. Both are good players and are scary as scum (good at looking townie). But the defense of scar and the vote association let me conclude scar is mafia with one of them. So for now.. Vote: Scarlet Rage You think Togs or RE to be the kind of scum to stick their neck out from the very beginning of the game for a scumbuddy? Wouldn't scum be more self-conscious about defending a scum buddy? Kit said: Imo town is more likely to be hardheaded in their reads/opinions. Scum KNOWS their scumread is incorrect and are therefore more likely to take a step back and rethink.RE vs God. God owns up to his mistake and revokes vote. This sounds more town than scum. "Well shit, you’re right. You were actually the first to vote :))" (then he unvotes). Scum just typically wouldn't do this although I can't seem to articulate why. If anyone wants to dispute this go ahead. The problem i have with fathu revoking his vote is that his initial reasoning of the vote should've been his reply to sleip, he said so himself. Yet when both me and RE asked him to clarify that exact post he ignored it. When i called him out for ignoring it, he ignored that too. Because of that it came across more as abondoning a failed vote than abandoning a failed line of thought to me. There's space on the Godfather wagon. |
RE said: Scarlet_Rage said: She is voting you. She is taking sides between you and Sleipnirr. I feel both of you may be town.I am going to say the frustrating thing here. Kit is probably town from this exchange. She's focused more on understanding my arguments rather than putting them in a scummy negative light. Read on Godfathu feels a bit TMI-ish. I think her engaging with you is to create content. She's already decided you are scum. So you think Kit is scum trying to rile me against Sleip to protect Godfather? Interesting thought. Or do you think Godfather is town too and that Kit is hoping for noise? |
Scarlet_Rage said: Sorry but how comes you've suddenly got a perfect grasp on fathu's scummeta?Scum Godfather would say it's too early to catch scum as well. It lets him not scumhunt. There is a chance I am wrong with my theory but I want to see evidence not trying to shoehorn theoretical comments as town slips. There are plenty of weird and unpredictable players around in this club. Using a generic image for predicting what scum would do is far from fail-proof. |
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Scarlet_Rage said: Noise, probably. TvT is the foundation of an easy scum game. I think Kit's insider info kicked in and she defended Godfathu with it. Godfathu is definitely scummy, but there's more of a threshold for that read to be wrong.RE said: She is voting you. She is taking sides between you and Sleipnirr. I feel both of you may be town. Read on Godfathu feels a bit TMI-ish. I think her engaging with you is to create content. She's already decided you are scum. So you think Kit is scum trying to rile me against Sleip to protect Godfather? Interesting thought. Or do you think Godfather is town too and that Kit is hoping for noise? |
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wen294 said: Scarlet_Rage said: Sorry but how comes you've suddenly got a perfect grasp on fathu's scummeta?Scum Godfather would say it's too early to catch scum as well. It lets him not scumhunt. There is a chance I am wrong with my theory but I want to see evidence not trying to shoehorn theoretical comments as town slips. There are plenty of weird and unpredictable players around in this club. Using a generic image for predicting what scum would do is far from fail-proof. It's not a meta argument but saying scum are just as capable of saying nothing. A generic image has flaws, but it's actually better than meta. (This is where I deviate from most). I ask myself, what is this player trying to accomplish? That in turn suggests alignment. |
Kit said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: It's not a scum tell by itself but in conjunction with other behaviors. What else leads you to believe togs is scum? I know this isn't directed at me, but I do see this as Tog trying to get people to interact more in the game. Probably a scum tell? Hiding in plain sight and all that jazz. If we want to go that route then I think we have bigger, hidder fish to fry. Togs would make for a good late kill if we can't find a reason for someone else Why are people putting words into my mouth? It starts with you and you spread it like the plague. I never said that Togs is scum, or even that I 65% read him as such. I just suspect his actions and explained when asked. Sure I said "you" when referring to actions Tog could take if he was scum, but I never said he was. Hence why I haven't voted for him or anyone. |
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RE said: Scarlet_Rage said: Noise, probably. TvT is the foundation of an easy scum game. I think Kit's insider info kicked in and she defended Godfathu with it. Godfathu is definitely scummy, but there's more of a threshold for that read to be wrong.So you think Kit is scum trying to rile me against Sleip to protect Godfather? Interesting thought. Or do you think Godfather is town too and that Kit is hoping for noise? Well that's a cogent theory. I still favor mine. I know my personal flaw is I fight frequently with town that refuse to admit they are wrong/baseless. I kinda had Kit in that category but if my own theory is garbage then yours stands a much higher likelihood of being correct. I will just disagree for now. At some point, I will test this though. |
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Kit said: It's not a scum tell by itself but in conjunction with other behaviors. What else leads you to believe togs is scum? Why are people putting words into my mouth? It starts with you and you spread it like the plague. I never said that Togs is scum, or even that I 65% read him as such. I just suspect his actions and explained when asked. Sure I said "you" when referring to actions Tog could take if he was scum, but I never said he was. Hence why I haven't voted for him or anyone. Can you vote your biggest suspect even if you think it's real weak. It helps me sort you later on. Can you put preliminary thoughts regarding each player? |
Oyasumi_Rosie said: ..... I am confused.Kit said: It's not a scum tell by itself but in conjunction with other behaviors. What else leads you to believe togs is scum? Why are people putting words into my mouth? It starts with you and you spread it like the plague. I never said that Togs is scum, or even that I 65% read him as such. I just suspect his actions and explained when asked. Sure I said "you" when referring to actions Tog could take if he was scum, but I never said he was. Hence why I haven't voted for him or anyone. Then what's the point of your earlier posts... You said his actions were "so scummy" and were talking about keeping him alive, looking at his behaviour and associations if he was scum and stuff. But if you don't scumread him then that basically means what you said about togs goes for every player equally and you don't want to lynch anybody early on for the sake of information once they do get lynched... so why aren't you voting no lynch then. I'm so lost. |
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Godfathu said: Scarlet_Rage said: Again, the post you quoted by Godfather says my bad technical difficulties, null. A townie way to answer is to realize specific facts and reach a conclusion. Godfather is avoiding comments to avoid pissing anyone off. It's more as a lack of commenting because of lack of understanding. I don't mind rustling feathers :) Vote: Scarlet_Rage You're really into looking for pairs. Associating people together as scum. How do I know you're not scum associating your mates with innocent bystanders? I feel like that's a good way to gain credibility and spread fud if in the future someone you're cooperating with goes down. Again, you and Sleep are independently scummy. You and Sleep have done nothing besides circle jerk each other. I call you out for having no opinions on the thread, you vote me. Implying that I am "looking for pairs". Hardly accurate. I have one theory. You and Sleep are partners. RE has a theory that you and Sleep are both town and Kit is revving us up. So my question for you, is what do you think of Kit and RE? |
Scarlet_Rage said: Can you vote your biggest suspect even if you think it's real weak. It helps me sort you later on. Can you put preliminary thoughts regarding each player? No. I rather develop a good reason to vote some one. I'm trying to be a better play than I have That being said, if I wanted to vote on pure gut feeling alone, I would probably go Wen. I can never tell if he really can't read me, or if he is looking for a good townie to frame. Clearly their are several reasons why I shouldn't vote him, the biggest one being he isn't actually acting all that scummy. I do find it weird that he claimed I called Togs scum right after kit, though it could be a timing thing And sure I could but its going to take a hot minute. I am going to read through the game again and take notes. |
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wen294 said: Scarlet_Rage said: Sorry but how comes you've suddenly got a perfect grasp on fathu's scummeta?Scum Godfather would say it's too early to catch scum as well. It lets him not scumhunt. There is a chance I am wrong with my theory but I want to see evidence not trying to shoehorn theoretical comments as town slips. There are plenty of weird and unpredictable players around in this club. Using a generic image for predicting what scum would do is far from fail-proof. Godf isn't from this club tho. and u can correct without confronting in a hostile manner, esp for a question like that. sorry but this sounds fishy. |
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wen294 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: ..... I am confused.Why are people putting words into my mouth? It starts with you and you spread it like the plague. I never said that Togs is scum, or even that I 65% read him as such. I just suspect his actions and explained when asked. Sure I said "you" when referring to actions Tog could take if he was scum, but I never said he was. Hence why I haven't voted for him or anyone. Then what's the point of your earlier posts... You said his actions were "so scummy" and were talking about keeping him alive, looking at his behaviour and associations if he was scum and stuff. But if you don't scumread him then that basically means what you said about togs goes for every player equally and you don't want to lynch anybody early on for the sake of information once they do get lynched... so why aren't you voting no lynch then. I'm so lost. Because he is the only one who is acting in the ways that I described. And one of the few players who are doing anything really worth commenting on. I mean you are right that I could replaced any play with togs, but in this game only togs is acting in that way, hence a focus on him. And I never said that I didn't want to lynch someone. I just don't have someone I want to vote for. I don't like voting, but i'm all for a first day lynch. |
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AbuHumaid said: Phraze said: That wasn't an excuse? I merely asked Togs why early trains are good, and why would I need an excuse to vote at that stage of the game?suspicious. wanna know why u took excuse to join a train. Btw, what's with nitpicking? Not only with me, but this post as well gave me the impression that you're focusing on little things that don't matter much. Why are Godfather/Kit/Abu a possible scum team? I checked the thread and I haven't seen you scum-reading Godfather nor Kit? So what's with the sudden scum reads? I like this as town. |
AbuHumaid said: 1. putting pressure on chaotic town could be a reason.Phraze said: That wasn't an excuse? I merely asked Togs why early trains are good, and why would I need an excuse to vote at that stage of the game?suspicious. wanna know why u took excuse to join a train. Btw, what's with nitpicking? Not only with me, but this post as well gave me the impression that you're focusing on little things that don't matter much. Why are Godfather/Kit/Abu a possible scum team? I checked the thread and I haven't seen you scum-reading Godfather nor Kit? So what's with the sudden scum reads? 2. I like to nitpick. 3. read (as in past tense) the thread and progression. |
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Hi. Let's chat. Why the Kit vote? Why have you seemingly had no interaction with me? Who was your RVS vote on? What do you think of Abu? |
Godfathu said: Scarlet_Rage said: Again, you and Sleep are independently scummy. You and Sleep have done nothing besides circle jerk each other. I call you out for having no opinions on the thread, you vote me. Implying that I am "looking for pairs". Hardly accurate. I have one theory. You and Sleep are partners. RE has a theory that you and Sleep are both town and Kit is revving us up. So my question for you, is what do you think of Kit and RE? How is it implying and hardly accurate that I'm accusing you of pairing, and then a sentence later you say that you believe I'm partners with Sleipner? Like I'm reading it on my screen right now. I'm watching you do it. No. You were implying that I am trying to create multiple pairs. That I am randomly throwing teams together for my partners. Yet here, you're objecting only to my conclusion. Namely, you and Sleep are partners. The bolded in your post suggests that you're arguing I am doing this repeatedly. In fact, that has to be the implication or your post is nothing more than raging I suspect you. Also, so you know, I am a pitbull. I find a theory. I test theory. I then reset. You also did not answer what you think of Kit and RE? Let's add Phaze on since you failed to answer before. |
Scarlet_Rage said: Kit is one of my suspects.Hi. Let's chat. Why the Kit vote? Why have you seemingly had no interaction with me? Who was your RVS vote on? What do you think of Abu? I hardly interacted with anyone, only those I remember were good players. rvs was on riku. no idea about Abu atm. |
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Phraze said: Scarlet_Rage said: Kit is one of my suspects.Hi. Let's chat. Why the Kit vote? Why have you seemingly had no interaction with me? Who was your RVS vote on? What do you think of Abu? I hardly interacted with anyone, only those I remember were good players. rvs was on riku. no idea about Abu atm. Why are you only interacting with good players? Why do you have no idea on Abu? He's pushing on you. Do you feel it is warranted or not? What do you think of Sleip? If you had to lynch Abu or Godfather right now who would you pick? |
| Alright, I’m not going to be able to get to everything I want to get to here but after classes tonight I plan to go back and properly get to to everything. Sleipnirr said: Ok, so you want to pressure someone you don’t know about, that’s actually reasonable response. If you are experienced enough playing with me though, you should know that I always push for committing to votes ? I mean it’s fair if you say I’m never active so you didn’t know, but this reasoning is predicted on you already “knowing my okay to some extent.”because I have played ith u and I havent played with scarlet. If I think an action is anti town I would focus on the person I dont know instead of attacking the one I know. Afterall we have played before and almost everyone here knows how the others play to some extent so its easier to color others eyes with manipulated self meta while defending. So its easier to attack someone whom I have no idea about. Also my original question, w/w or w/v ? Sleipnirr said: There’s no jester in this setup. I’ve been pressuring you on this because it’s weird that you aren’t really pushing me at all. You did answer me a little in the quote above but I don’t really understand your stance on me.@togs also this is the second time you are asked to be voted by me. Is there a particular reason for that? Jester maybe? Or is it that you are trying to distract me from scarlet? Maybe you are just trying to scare me off? So togs which one is it? wen294 said: I mean I agree I literally never read into any RVS tells, but like at some point in every game, someone has to “overanalyze” in order for the game to get started.Togs said: What do you suggest people do instead ? If they do it to start a conversation then there's no particular need to do something else. In RVS it's pretty normal and fine to start a conversation on something NAI because there's nothing else. What i'm saying is that what they're talking about is (at least imo) NAI and more of a personal playstyle thing. If you take that with you as reasoning for a read (be it scum or town) then imo you're just overanalyzing. And once you do that you tend to get biased as well, which tends not to be a great thing. Do you think scarlet and I are more likely w/v or w/w ? Is this a failed attempt at writing t/s or t/t or is this some new thing the cool kids do that i'm not aware of because i'm not cool enough. w/w and w/v mean s/s and s/t respectively yes, just consider them to be interchangeable. Oyasumi_Rosie said: Your post seems to imply that I’ve chosen the playstyle of encouraging votes because it’s convenient to me as scum, but it’s actually like.. at any decently developed level of mafia play you will see this as a prevailing opinion because it just benefits town so much. Also I try to do this every game. If we don’t get people to commit to their stances and leave a paper trail, it will be harder to track scum when we’re looking back for interactions and such later on.Togs said: I think I understand your reasoning in your response and I do agree on a level. If I had a 1-shot dayvig and there was someone who I thought was scum early on, I soundly want to shoot them because it would deprive the town of much needed interactions. There is a big difference between a dayvig and lynching though ! Even if you think I’m better to be lynched later, you should probably still push my case because that will create pressure and interactions and advance the game. If I’m an active deepwolf I’m one of my team’s greatest assets, my buddies could possibly slip up when trying to defend me. In other words I agree with your point but I don’t think just sitting on reads is going to get us anywhere. Let’s start with this, surely not every time someone tries to whip up activity is a scum tell. What about my posting this game leads you to believe I’m trying to hide in plain sight rather than just being good intentioned town ? I feel like I am making my case more or less, but I guess I should better explain why I read it as scummy. Whipping up activity certainly isn't a scum tell all the time, but there are different ways to start it up, some less scummy than other. Defending another player is a very easy way to gain town points. If Scarlet flips town you could gain points just for protecting her.Not to mention your early votes really feel more like hoping on the popular train, to avoid being blamed for killing a town. You seem to be pushing other people to come up with people to vote for rather than going for someone yourself. If you were truly town, you'd probably be more likely to through caution to the wind, and just pick someone to see how they flip. TL;DR: You are scummy to me because you push for others to vote with out really coming up with your own reasons for, as well as defending trains early to get town cred if they flip town. Also I feel sad you didn’t actually vote in your response because I spent a whole paragraph trying to explain why that behavior is helpful to the town. But I guess I already got you to commit to the stance so shrug. AlbertinoDias said: I literally just checked the last votcount and you’re still voting for no lynch. But you say it’s bad and literally speak in riddles.. you do see how this can make you aggravating to interact with ?TOP DEFINITION Not cool An expression on how something is... well, not cool. Very similar to the following expression: gay, retarded, lame, etc." *roll eyes* RE said: I know he has the capacity to actually play the game and whether he’s town or scum we could get info out of his train. Seems like no one wanted to follow me thoughTogs said: Actually. Why?##Change Vote: Dias I’m gonna be at work for a few hours and this feels like a good place to be |
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| Wow I really did not have time to post much. RE and Zymf sound exactly like their town metas to me Abu / yurkin / Phraze are posting suspiciously low for their usual selves. Though in Phraze’s case maybe she’s just in eight other games. Rosie seems kind of townish actually but I want to encourage her to post more I want to say Sleip never contributes this much as scum, but I don’t actually remember any of his scum games Will be back in a few hours |
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Scarlet_Rage said: Phraze said: Kit is one of my suspects. I hardly interacted with anyone, only those I remember were good players. rvs was on riku. no idea about Abu atm. Why are you only interacting with good players? Why do you have no idea on Abu? He's pushing on you. Do you feel it is warranted or not? What do you think of Sleip? If you had to lynch Abu or Godfather right now who would you pick? 1. cuz I can get an idea of the others without interacting. 2. he's only reacting to my questions. 3. no idea about Sleip. 4. no lynch. AbuHumaid said: Phraze said: 1. putting pressure on chaotic town could be a reason. 2. I like to nitpick. 3. read (as in past tense) the thread and progression. 1. What does that even mean? 2. Just because you "like it" doesn't justify focusing on little things and ignoring the whole picture. 3. So you're saying that you're sheeping the others? And have Godfather and Kit as scumreads because some people scumread them? I'm not trying to twist what you're trying to say, but you're being really vague right now. Edit: added a missing word. 1. trying to pressurize a townie who reacts wildly and create the environment to chain mislynches. 2. no reason to focus on the big picture if others are doing it. 3. I'm relying on content generated by others, but the train of thought is my own. |
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| Right now, my gut says Godfather Sleep and Phraze are the scumfucks. Yet Phraze voting Kit is weakly against that theory. Yet only weakly because I think that creates wagons on me, Kit and Godfather that are about even. |
Togs said: I did not notice a difference?Abu / yurkin / Phraze are posting suspiciously low for their usual selves. Though in Phraze’s case maybe she’s just in eight other games. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE said: then what do you think about togs's vote? he voted on dias too with very little reasoningWith regards to Dias, I honestly lean him closer to town. The haikus draw attention. He tried something new with no lynch. All this avoids blending in, which scum tend to do. Which is why I have a somewhat of a scumlean on Wen as well. Because his vote felt opportunistic. He went after a player who stood out. |
| Vote: Phraze Sure, let's test this. Game was stagnating on Godfather. I also want to see what reactions this gets. |
Kit said: I thought it was slightly opportunistic. The little reasoning wasn't exactly the bothersome part, it was more so the level of confidence he had in the vote. His latest explanation is passable.RE said: then what do you think about togs's vote? he voted on dias too with very little reasoningWith regards to Dias, I honestly lean him closer to town. The haikus draw attention. He tried something new with no lynch. All this avoids blending in, which scum tend to do. Which is why I have a somewhat of a scumlean on Wen as well. Because his vote felt opportunistic. He went after a player who stood out. AbuHumaid said: Now, what have you done this game that isn't sheeping?2 & 3, you can call that whatever you want, but that's basically sheeping. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| @Phraze, So you have a read on me then? If Abu is only reacting to your questions why would you no lynch if you had to pick between Abu and Godfather? If you have no idea on Sleip, when will you figure it out? Why, when pushed for details does everything come back, that you don't know? If Abu and Godfather are both in scumpools, why say no lynch at all? Wouldn't you be happy with either? |
AbuHumaid said: Phraze said: 1. cuz I can get an idea of the others without interacting. 2. he's only reacting to my questions. 3. no idea about Sleip. 4. no lynch. 1. trying to pressurize a townie who reacts wildly and create the environment to chain mislynches. 2. no reason to focus on the big picture if others are doing it. 3. I'm relying on content generated by others, but the train of thought is my own. 1. I still don't get it, how could an early train do that? 2 & 3, you can call that whatever you want, but that's basically sheeping. 1. putting pressure on someone new in the hopes they panic and confuse the gamestate. repetition tho 2/3. to each their own. |
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